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Posted By: Bmat Mar 09, 2004 - 01:17 pm

It has been suggested that Londo and G'Kar were the central characters of the series. Their stories, their development.

I hadn't thought of it like this. What do you all think?

Posted By: Sindatur Mar 09, 2004 - 01:29 pm

Yes and no. Just about everyone in the series was a central character, but, there is an awful lot of Canon written from Londo's Viewpoint (Centauri Prime Trilogy, Opening credits of at least one season, In the Beginning, Londo/G'Kar death scene). And of course Londo and G'Kar's destinies are joined at the hip, so if Londo is, G'Kar is. I think Sheridan/Sinclair and Delenn were just as central though.

Posted By: Aldan Mar 09, 2004 - 03:14 pm

I agree with this. And this is one of the reasons why I think that Bab5 left network TV for cable - there was no "true" MC. Instead, there were 4 or 5 Captain Kirks on the show, and it's tougher to advertise for this, when the ad execs are used to either an "ensemble" cast (aka Friends cast) or a cast with only ONE MC surrounded by minor characters, as is the usual situation. BAB5 lands inbetween these, in that the cast is not ALL stars, but there ARE more than one, so I think it left execs floating.

Posted By: Nomad Mar 10, 2004 - 05:58 am

Good point Alden. Even Londo's description of the dawn of the new age surrounded the B5 characters. All iof them, but mostly Delenn, Sheridan

Posted By: ProfCrash Mar 10, 2004 - 07:38 am

If Londo and G'Kar are the central figures, then this would possibily take place in the last year of their lives? If I am remembering the trilogy correctly, that is when G'Kar went to Centauri Prime and stayed as Londo's guest.

Otherwise, they would be cutting back and forth between G'Kar's travel and Londo's time on Centauri Prime. What would be really cool is if they could bring back Vir. By extension, this would return Galen to the series.

Posted By: Iznardi Mar 10, 2004 - 10:56 am

Might be more correct to say that the Centauri/Narn conflict is the central drama of the series. It was this conflict that the Shadows exploited, this conflict that Kosh said was dooming both species, and this conflict which continues even after the defeat of the Shadows when the Narn counterattack Centauri Prime, thus paving the way for the Drakh to take control. And it is only with the death of G'Kar and Londo that the era of conflict finally ends, and the true "new age" begins under Emperor Vir. So yeah, I would say the two characters are central, and that their conflict is the thread that ties together a very complex story.

But I don't think they are the central love story. At least, I hope they weren't the central love story.

Posted By: ProfCrash Mar 12, 2004 - 06:51 am

Iz, are you suggesting that the story would focus on the conflict that occured during B5's run? If not then that would mean the series is set 20 years in the future?

My understanding of events, based on the books, is that there is no Centauri/Narn conflict after Londo becomes Emperor. Londo removes Centauri Prime from the Alliance and dissolves all ties with other worlds. Aliens are not welcome on Centauri Prime and and treated pretty poorly when they arrive. There is no indication of a war or any other contact with the Narn.

G'Kar uses a camouflage coat to change his appearence to a Centauri when he goes to Centauri Prime to spy for Sheridan and is eventually caught.

Outside of that, there is no real interaction between Cenatuari Prime and Narn.

It could be that JMS is going to alter the continuity from the trilogy but I do not see that happening. JMS wrote the outlines, read the books, and approved the books. So it is not likely he is going to alter that continuity.

Which would mean that a Centauri/Narn conflict would have to occur after G'Kar and Londo's death. Also after Sheridan's death with Vir as the Emperor, something else I have difficulty seeing.

Posted By: Sindatur Mar 12, 2004 - 10:11 am

Hi PC, one of us seems to be going down the track. I (and I believe everyone else responding to Bmat's original post about Central Characters) was talking about B5 proper that has already ended it's run.

You appear to be talking about the new project, which I don't believe anyone else has commented on in this thread.

Of course, I could be the one on the wrong end of the train.

Bmat, was it your intent to discuss Londo and G'Kar as Central characters in the original 5 year B5 Series, or had you heard that the new Project would center around G'Kar and Londo, and I sent your thread off in a wrong direction by misunderstanding your intent?

Posted By: Bmat Mar 12, 2004 - 10:27 am

The original series.