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Posted By: Pat0214 Jan 26, 2005 - 12:33 pm

I find that this type of story as sort of almost disapeared. I was thinking that with the release of LXG we might see more of these.

I am thinking of the stories of Arthur Conan Doyle, Edgard Rice Burroughs, H. Rider Haggard & Jules Verne and many others

The adventures to a lost world, dinosaurs, distant lands. These used to be very popular at one point. Do anyone here think these are past their time? Am I living too much in the past?

LXG did work out pretty well and Sky Captain was fun to watch. It's too bad that Peter Jackson upcoming King Kong will not be set in the 30's instead of the 21st century. Same for upcoming War Of The World. I feel setting this stories in a turn or pre WW2 brings a charm to it that is lost when setting them in the 21st century. Anyone else think so?

A great character to bring back (if done well) would be Doc Savage. He's all but forgotten now a days. I've read many of these when I was a teen and loved them. The Doc Savage books are now almost impossible to find unfortunatly.

So what does anyone think? Is this type of story gone and done for? Better left to the past?

Posted By: Magus Jan 26, 2005 - 01:11 pm

Yeah. I think that stories should stay in the time period they were written in. That goes also for that horrible adaptation of 'Salem's Lot that TNT made recently. It was horrible for many other reasons, but that part still annoyed me.

Now, coud you be more specific on what you meant with the story type? Would this be something like The Narnia series where they go to Narnia and other such worlds? If so, would this then incorperate The Dark Tower series?

Posted By: Pat0214 Jan 27, 2005 - 09:16 am

I was thinking about stories like The Lost World with strange creatures and dinosaurs but all located on Earth. Lost continents or forgotten civilazation. Alan Quatermain finding a long lost city full of mystery deep inside Africa. Something like that.

I wonder if the time for these type of stories is long gone or if they might become popular again. I like the way they made Around The World In 80 Days lst summer (granted it wasn't very serious) but they kept it in the time that Jules Verne was talking about.

Posted By: Magus Jan 27, 2005 - 06:48 pm

I think it's not dead. If anything I think it's lying low. But, sooner or later, it will resurface.

Posted By: Pat0214 Jan 28, 2005 - 10:36 am

I think that these stories can now be made in a proper fashion because of the way FX are now made, well as long as they don't just go with FX and forget to make a story around it, that is often what is forgotten about these type of movies. They don't make justice to the original books they are inspired from

Posted By: Magus Jan 28, 2005 - 01:25 pm

Many adaptations don't do that kind of justice. Just look at the vast majority of movies adapted from Stephen King's novels. Look well at other such adaptations of other authors. It needs to be done right, and that just doesn't happen the way that it should.

Posted By: Pat0214 Jan 31, 2005 - 12:19 pm

I understand what you mean Magus, but I've never seen a SK movie. I've only read one book all the way to the end from him and that was The Stand, all other 3 books I tried, I could not finish them. For some reason I cannot understand what is the big deal about him (that freak's my aunt everytime because she adore him)

I wish they could do a proper version of The Lost World, with a good story and nice effects, without adding a child (why those Hollywood always need to add a child, cute, nice, boring in their stories) and no blonde wild child who's been lost for 20 years but manage to survive in a world full of dinosaurs with a bikini and a knife. :-)

Posted By: Magus Jan 31, 2005 - 01:03 pm

I haven't read The Stand yet, but it's VERY high on my list. My brother has it, so whenever the need arises, ie After The Dark Tower.

what were the other three books of his that you read?

If you like fantasy then he's written others. There The Dark Tower series which I HIGHHLY recommend. He wrote The Eyes of the Dragon, one I haven't read but here is good. He also co-wrote The Talisman and Black House with Peter Straub. I hear they're good and Fantasy as well.

So maybe you just need to read the right boom from him.

Posted By: Pat0214 Feb 01, 2005 - 01:20 pm

I've read Christine, The Shinning and Salem Lot.

My aunt as been after me to give the Dark Tower a try. So this series is very good? I have heard some good comments on it.

Posted By: Magus Feb 01, 2005 - 05:32 pm

Very VERY good. It's a whole new genre; post apacolyptic sci-fi western epic fantasy. I highly recommend it for those who love fantasy, especially non-traditional.

You read 'Salem's Lot? I liked that one. It actually plays quite the role in the latter half of the series, as Father Callahan makes a showing.

All of King's works are interlocking. He makes allusions to his own works constantly, but treats them as actual events. But there are a good many books, maybe as many as half but maybe even more, that are directly related to The Dark Tower, as it's centralized a kind of multiverse. But I shouldn't give to much away.

But, safe enough to say, it's his crowning masterpiece, his Magnum Opus.

"The Man in Black fled across the desert and the Gunslinger followed... as did six other books and an entire interlocking library."

Posted By: Pat0214 Feb 02, 2005 - 09:37 am

Well I've been thinking of giving this series a try (always looking for something new to read) so I guess I will try the first one and see where it goes.

For some reason I never was able to get into any of the books I've read, with the exception of The Stand

Posted By: Magus Feb 02, 2005 - 01:58 pm

MUHAHAHAHAHAHA... I win.



But seriously, the opening line is enough to get you hooked. The man himself said that it was the single greatest sentence he ever write and will ever be likely to write.

The man in Black fled across the desert and the Gunslinger followed."

Posted By: Pat0214 Feb 04, 2005 - 09:26 am

That sound's like an old western movie opening Magus :-)

Posted By: Magus Feb 04, 2005 - 01:59 pm

Well... partly Western anyway...

Posted By: Pat0214 Feb 07, 2005 - 12:47 pm

Well I will order the first book on this coming friday and I will let you know how I like it

Posted By: Magus Feb 07, 2005 - 01:09 pm

O.K. Glad to hear it. They get far better as you move on from the first, but the first is still one excellent book. A little slow, but still excellent.

Posted By: Pat0214 Feb 08, 2005 - 08:59 am

So in other words, don't give up on them to fast