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Scifi and Fantasy Forum: Speculation: Our Paranormal Experiences:
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Paranormal experiences. I've had mine. I'd like to do a forum where we can share our experiences in the strange, unusual, or just plain freakin' weird. It would be nice if we could do without the rude never-believer wisecracks that often plague these types of conversations, so if you do not believe what you read here PLEASE just keep your comments to yourself.
I think that EVERYONE has paranormal experiences, but that we just pass them off as "seeing things" or "I was sleepy". Strange lights, feelings of being watched by thin air, voices in an empty room, psychic thoughts or dreams "that come true", da ja vu, UFO or ghost sightings, strange actions by household appliances in the night, cats all reacting to something you cannot perceive, outer body experiences, and the list goes on and on.
I'll share one of mine. One time when I was like ten or so, I woke up in the night with a funny feeling to look over my shoulder. I sat up in my bed and pulled back the curtains. What I saw sitting in our old tempo is something I'll never forget. It was like something out of the "Ghostbusters" movies. A strange form, see-through, of a man sitting in the driver's seat. His chin and face was like stretched and pointy, he had a long mouth with many sharp teeth, weird sharp eyes, and very long, pointy fingers. He sat motionless as if caught in a moment. His only action was to move his hands along the steering wheel as if he was driving. I turned back, and believe it or not, went back to sleep!
It was very foggy that night, but his form was very clear. I tried to tell myself that it was just my imagination, but I've always known it wasn't. I can't explain what it was or why I saw it, only that it happened and it was real. I do live on the coast of Nova Scotia, Canada, where these things happen quite commonly. In fact, we are known for our ghost stories. I can't help but be a believer after my own experience, and I'll never forget it.
Posted By:  Magus Aug 19, 2004 - 08:06 pm |       | I can;t remember having any such experiences myself. I know a friend who says he had an out of body experience and another (a group of triplets actually) who say they have some manner of psychic link and share some thoughts/dreams/senses/emotions/knowledge.
My sister has a friend who's parents one day were running late for a flight, as they had overslept. They rushed to the airport and just missed the plane. That plane crashed and everybody on it died. Afterwords they found out that the wife was pregnent with a child. Needless to say they have kept him on an excruciatingly short leash his entire life, the mother's very over protective.
I forget, what's the term for remembering something that has yet to happen. It's not de je vu, but similar (remembering the future as opposed to having a similar experience). It begins with a P and ends in a "je vu". P--- je vu? Any ideas?
| Posted By: chowder Aug 20, 2004 - 03:22 am | | Magus, the word you're looking for is premonition
One dark night, up north in Ontario cottage country, I was riding in a small boat with a friend. Another friend was in a 2nd boat beside us.
We noticed this round light, quite bright, hovering about 20 feet in the air behind us. It followed us until we reached the dock. Leaping from the boats, we raced into the cottage.
Then it was gone.
Have since heard there's a form of orb lightning (or something) that people often mistake for UFO's or whatever.
| Posted By: Magus Aug 20, 2004 - 04:54 am | | No, it's not. It was a term "something" je vu. It's defined as the act of remembering events that haven't happend. Premonition is seeing the future, as one would see a movie, so to speak. This is remembering, as one would reflect upon the movie, but the movie hasn't been watched yet. It's in a book I'm reading. I'm going to flip back and see if I can find it.
That's amazing, Chowder. I've seen "orbs" myself, but never with anyone else.
| Posted By: Hyperion Aug 20, 2004 - 10:26 am | | I am like Magus in this topic, I haven't had any paranormal experiences myself, but I do have a friend who says he did, and he was at my Fathers house at the time, we were both 12 yrs old.
We were playing Manhunt in the grounds of my Fathers estate, [man hunt = more or less hide and seek] and it was my turn to find my friend.
He went of to hide, and I spent 4 hrs looking for him throughout the grounds of my Fathers estate before I finally gave up shouted I have given up, then went inside for some super and a good sleep.
I went to School the next morning, found my friend and asked him were he had gotten to the previous night, and he went white as a sheet when he saw me and I asked him; then he said, "I swear I saw a ghost drifting through some bushes down by the mini lake in your grounds, so I just legged it home".
Then he made me swear not to tell anyone about it at school, I never did because he looked so serious and scared by the experience.
I had heard tales from Gardner's and people in the village near my fathers estate, about a ghostly figure that had been seen on many an occasion hanging round the little island in the middle of the mini lake on my fathers estate.
I never did see it myself though 
The little secluded island in the middle of the lake however, was a great source of fun for me as I grew up,  sort of my secret treasure island
Surrounded on all sides by water from the lake, and the lake it's self surrounded by a small woods
Great fun
Hyperion The Despised
Yeah, it is difficult when you see a ghost and you're alone. It contradicts with reality, and I think that's the most frightening part. You have to keep it quiet of course, because most people would just call you a liar or think you're crazy. It's hard to know what a "ghost" is -- an echo of the past or the living dead.
I wonder, Hypersion, how dark was it when your friend saw it?
| Posted By: Bmat Aug 20, 2004 - 10:43 am | | I've never had anything beyond deja vu. But a couple nights ago I awoke from a "dream" where my supervisor was telling me that all teaching jobs where I work were being abolished. I remember, upon awakening, that I thought that this must be a premonition. It was so real and so distressing.
It doesn't make any sense actually, since the classes are thriving and bringing in a lot of business. However, decisions are from time to time made without any consultation with me, so it would not be unheard of for such a major decision to be made without my knowing.
I once had a dream that I was interviewed for this electronical assembler job that I had been applying for over a year and a half, and right the next day had an interview and got hired. Incidentally, in the dream it said that my best qualities were "sugar and salt". I'm still trying to figure that one out.
| Posted By: Bmat Aug 20, 2004 - 06:03 pm | | Sugar- your pleasant personality?
Salt- either your sense of humor or that you have enthusiasm?
| Posted By: Magus Aug 20, 2004 - 07:59 pm | | Or maybe that you take everything with a grain of salt.
| Posted By: Magus Aug 20, 2004 - 08:03 pm | | I found it! It's called Presque Vu.
"Presque Vu: a sense of experiencing which has not happened yet but will. Not precognition... but misplaced memory." The Dark Half by: Stephen King (Chapter 8, Section 3, Page 92)
I also looked this up further and it seems to pan out.
Yeah, I never thought of it that way. Taking things with "a grain of salt." Could be.
Presque Vu, huh? I guess then you might have a moment of Presque Vu, followed by deja vu when you actually have the experience.
| Posted By: Magus Aug 21, 2004 - 06:57 am | |  I guess you could.
Riiight... "Almost seen"? Is that King's definition or is it a wisespread definition?
| Posted By: Magus Aug 21, 2004 - 08:42 am | | I looked it up on other places before I posted it just to make sure that it wasn't some kind of made-up word of his, he has done so in the past. But everyplace I checked seemed to agree with his definition of it.
Ever notice how negative energy creates bad situations and positive energy creates good situations/luck? I knew an old lasy who was always winning contests. She would look at a car abd the mall and say, "I think I'll win it." And usually she would! When she had "it", she would win. "It" seemed to be positive energy. If you buy a ticket hoping to win you likely won't, yet on a gut feeling you likely will. Birthdays and such special days are the best times to win big money.
Positive thoughts, people.
| Posted By: DrZeuss Aug 22, 2004 - 09:42 pm | | Speaking of premonition, there is a short story by Orson Scott Card in his anthology Maps in a Mirror about some strange deaths. A man comes home to find his wife and son just heading out to get groceries and is surprised to find that they are breating in synch. The two of them end up dying in a fiery auto crash and the man forgets all about their breathing pattern. The story twists and turns from there and has an interesting ending that I won't give away if you havne't read it.
I wonder if there are more subtle clues, that most people miss in the bustle of everyday life, that demonstrate linkages between strangers and could offer premonitions like the breathing in Card's story.
I imagine. I...can't imagine what they might be, however. Maybe we all know our future uncinsciously, and therefore can somehow pick up on a person's future through their voice, eyes, or acions somehow. Supersition comes from a belief that there are many strange and subtle things happening all around us that we don't realize because we take things too literally.
They say a black cat crossing your path is bad luck. But if you trace that superstition back you find it used to be a WHITE cat. Trace it back further and you see that it meant GOOD luck. Imagine if you could just keep pealing back those layers further and further. Imagine what mystical truth you might uncover. Things get lost through time, and misunderstood. That's the importance of historiens, to me, and of researching old literacy that may tell or hint of those old truths or insights.
Neurolanis: Have you ever heard of the placebo effect? I'll let you think about that one for a few years.
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