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Postby Magus » Fri May 13, 2005 9:32 pm

There is one problem that only a nerd such as myself would notice about the light saber. Having a weapon of pure energy is nice. But think of that, the blade is a finite length of light. To do this you would need to be able to bend light and gravity to you will. If you can do this, then who really cares about using it as a sword when you could make a weapon infinitely more destructive then a Death Star? Also, why does Darth Vader settle with a red light saber while Luke gets a blue one? Blue is a much stronger form of light then red, giving him a distinct advantage. You'd think that the Empire would try to give their own a little boost. And also, in battle, the main problem with light sabers is that they instantly cauterize the wound, preventing blood loss and all sorts of fun advantages that come with it.

Other then that, awesome weapon.
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Postby Forever Zero » Thu May 19, 2005 11:45 am

Well, its a big step to stand on your soap box and say that when you don't even know how a lightsaber works. They're powered by "crystals", and that can mean hundreds fo things.

Also, why does Darth Vader settle with a red light saber while Luke gets a blue one? Blue is a much stronger form of light then red, giving him a distinct advantage.

This is where you begin to think that Star Wars is pure sci-fi. It is not. That means it doesn't have to be restricted to hard sci-fi elements; No one really cares about the light spectrum. Vader's lightsaber is red because it is commonly believed to be an "evil" color, likewise Luke's is blue because its a "good" color.

And also, in battle, the main problem with light sabers is that they instantly cauterize the wound, preventing blood loss and all sorts of fun advantages that come with it.

And they also prevent the wound from ever healing.
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Postby Magus » Thu May 19, 2005 4:58 pm

***Falls off of soap box***

Ouch.

Good points.

I realized why they had the colors as they are. Notice how they're the same for all of the Sith. My thoughts were on a different matter, but you addressed that already above with the crystals.

And, yes, I didn't think about them never then healing. Maybe I should think some of the things I say through more before I haul out that old soap box.

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Postby Mr_D » Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:39 am

Hey, nice topic. I wonder why I didn't notice this earlier?

Anyway, yeah I like the ideas though I would like to point out that the first two have been used before. The Zephyrus is similar to the caster guns of outlaw star.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caster_gun

While the Naroch is similar to the gloves used by the character Potemkin in the guilty gear series of video games.

Not intending to put you down in any way just thought I'd bring it to your attention. I have the same problem all the time, you think you come up with something really original and find someone beat you to it.

Back on topic though I always liked the idea of thought powered weaponry, not just psychic powers but weapons actually fuelled by one's emotions and psyche. I had an idea for a WMD that transformed it's users trauma into massive destructive force. Of course it would have it's drawbacks, by forcing it's wielder to relive the most traumatic moments in their past it would render them slowly more and more unstable until they snapped and became gibbering wrecks.
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Postby Magus » Mon Sep 26, 2005 4:42 pm

Ahhhh... the Casters of Outlaw Star. I know thee well. I know thee well indeed...

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Postby Spiderkeg » Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:56 am

I've given some thought myself to creating a line of weapons which are magically enchanted to allow someone with no innate magic ability whatsoever to still use them. The trick though is to create boundaries and setbacks to these weapons, or else they could be mass produced and compeletely dominate a story, unless that is the purpose.

Right now I'm just working on a new form of weapon based on physics for my story. I am not looking to rely on standard Earth propellants, so I'm having to really expand my knowledge and look beyond. I am designing something that is feasible, or at best, is partially feasible. The benefit of such a weapon would be that, without relying on magic, it would not adhere to any magic rules. Anyone capable of protecting themselves from a castergun would not be able to block the firepower from a non-magical-yet-very-deadly gun based on physics.
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Postby Magus » Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:08 pm

I remember that a while ago I was toying with the idea of a futuristic-fantasy story similar in some regards to The Dark Tower... only instead of the multiple dimensions and the world "moving on" I had thought more along the lines of a world war that annihilated a world of great technology and gave way to a new world of fantasy that viewed the "more advanced" society of the past as we would ancient cultures, although their technology was still used alongside swordsmanship, magic, etc...

It was an amusing idea, if not an overly creative and thought out one. It might provide for a decent story in the future.

But now, more on weapons. Create you're own Casters at home; paint a sawed-off shot-gun gold and only fill one shell at a time.

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Postby Forever Zero » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:06 pm

@Mr_D: Yeah... Actually, I already knew about the Casters from OS. Plus, Guilty Gear is my favorite fighting game, and Potemkin was my inspiration for the Naroch. That and Squall's Gunblade from Final Fantasy VIII.

The Caster Gun is just a coincidence, though, becuase I was actually basing the concept on human-powered machinery. I was thinking some wires would actually embed themselves in the person's arm when the gun enters Fuse Mode.
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Postby Dead_Technology » Sat May 06, 2006 5:36 pm

Okay my idea is similar to the aforementioned chain scythe. You wear a glove, possibly two, and it has a rope attached to the top, with a weapon attached to the rope. It's very easy to have upgrades because of the many variable. You could upgrade the rope to chain, you could upgrade gloves from leather to metal and change the weapon. Possibly a mace ball, a curved blade of some sort. Eventually you could have some way of making the rope extend-able, so the enemy would think there out of range, but out of nowhere snicker-snack goes the vorpal curved blade on a rope on gloves :D Even cooler, you could make them invisible, making you look unarmed. This is somewhat similar to Scorpion's, Mortal Kombat, hand tentacle. Which brings me to my newly though of idea, putting a spear head at the end and using it just like Scorpion. Just thought I'd contribute with some stuff, I'd been tossing around. Don't know how practical, yeah I read the part about the impracticality of light-sabers and Klingon weapons, but it seemed like a neat concept.
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Postby Magus » Sun May 07, 2006 2:53 pm

I always did like the idea of a chain-scythe. I haven't used one yet, but plan on it for another project I have in the works.
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Postby Jack Sarratt » Sun May 21, 2006 5:32 pm

Chain scythes. Sorry guys, but such a weapon already exists. They're called kusarigama. Short scythes with chains attached to the end. The idea is this: the chains are thrown to entangle the enemy, then the wielder can pull the opponent towards them, then slice with the scythe.

My character in Lycoria uses a pair of them for more than just fighting. :twisted:
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